I bought 2 of these a couple weeks ago. We have 2 dogs, Hermione and Bender, that we were told upon their respective adoptions were 'designer hybrids'... a jack-chi (jack russell and chihuahua) and a dorgi (corgi and dachshund). We were pretty confident the jack-chi was what we were told she was. She looked just like one! But the Dorgi we were not sure. He has some corgi looking features and is long and thin but I had doubts. A google search for Dorgi produced no animal that looked like our Ben! I've owned the jack-chi for 6 years and ALWAYS wanted to know the truth about what she is. We adopted the dorgi for my husband 3 years ago and he didn't know such a test existed so when I told him about it a few weeks ago, he asked why we hadn't done it already! lol.
Anyway, I ordered the tests for $100 for both and they arrived in 3 days. The instructions say that you have to basically quarantine them for a couple hours, not letting them eat or lick anything so the sample is not contaminated and then take a small round q-tip/tooth brush looking thing and rub it around their gums above their teeth for 15 seconds let it dry for 5 minutes and send it back. I read reviews that gave tips on crating them or putting them in a spare bedroom for that quarantine time, ect but I knew our Dorgi would be a problem! He licks evvvverything constantly! I decided that since our dogs sleep with us I would put their tests on my nightstand and do it first thing in the morning so there would be no contamination of samples. They would have 8 hours of not eating drinking or licking a thing! Some reviewers made it seem hard to get an uncontaminated sample and said the lab came back and said it was unusable. I was nervous!
Well, I woke up at 3am to the dorgi licking me to go outside. LOL so I decided to go ahead and get the jack-chi sample as she was still adleep at the foot of the bed. I grabbed her swabs and woke her up and started rubbing. She probably didn't appreciate getting woken up like that! I tried to count to 15 as the instructions said but I only got to 5 on the first sample and 7 on the second. I let the dogs out and we all went back to sleep. When I woke up at 6:30am for work, Ben was still asleep so I grabbed his swabs and the same thing happened. He wouldn't tolerate the sample taking for more than 5 seconds! I was sure my samples would not be sufficient! But I had done what I could and I sent them in. That was Tuesday.
3 days later (Friday) I got an email saying that they had gotten them and the testing process had started. It said to expect results within 2 weeks. 7 days later, the following Friday around 6pm I checked my email and there were Bender's (dorgi) results. We were astonished! The PDF file was easy to read and had a family tree style diagram to clearly show us Ben's linage. We were astonished! Our dorgi was actually mostly made up of Australian Shepherd and Belgian Tervuren, the later being a breed we'd never even heard of. It had one whole line of ancestry that just said 'mixed breed' and when we scrolled down it said he was lowchen, shaffordshire bull terrier and collie and gave the percentages of each that made up that 'mixed breed' line.
All of a sudden when we looked at Bender, we saw a completely different dog! Things made much more sense!! The way he looks, why his eyes are colored the way they are, his personality, ect... it was enlightening!
But now I was anxious! Where were Hermione's results? Where was my confirmation telling me what I already knew? That Hermione was a Jack-chi? The next day, nothing came all day. It was the weekend, after all so I figured as much. I was sure I'd get them Monday but it was killing me! But then, as I laid down to go to sleep Saturday night I checked my email one last time on my iphone. There it was. Hermione's results were in. I shot out of bed and ran into the office to tell my husband and we huddled in front of my computer monitor at 11:30pm to open her PDF file. Again, I was shocked. I thought I knew my dog. I have an 'I <3 jack-chi's' tee shirt for crying out loud and the dog on the front of it looks JUST LIKE HERMIONE! But low and behold.... every single parent, grandparent and great grandparent of Hermione was a rat terrier. What I had on my hands was a full blooded rat terrier. At first I was actually disappointed, but Monday during some downtime at work I looked up the rat terrier and again... enlightenment. Everything started to make sense. She does look exactly like a rat terrier and her personality matches right up. The more I learned about this impressive breed the happier I got that I bought this test and found out the truth. I have always known I had an amazing animal on my hands, I mean Hermione single handedly (pawdedly?) turned my husband from a cat person to a dog person, but now here was proof that my dog really is something special :)I also know now what to looks for medically as she ages. The ailments that are common to her breed.
So in summery, DNA sample taking turned out to be a snap, from ordering it off amazon to getting my results took 13 and 14 days respectively and I believe the results to be 100% correct. I am extremely pleased with this service and will no doubt purchase it for every single dog I adopt in the future!
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| Item Weight | 0.176 ounces |
|---|---|
| Department | Pet Supplies |
| Manufacturer | Mars Veterinary |
| ASIN | B00G334QXU |
| Item model number | Mixed Breed DNA Test Kit |
| Customer Reviews |
3.8 out of 5 stars |
| Date First Available | September 24, 2009 |
| Item Package Dimensions L x W x H | 9.02 x 6.02 x 0.47 inches |
| Item Dimensions LxWxH | 8.75 x 2 x 4.75 inches |
| Item Weight | 5 Grams |
| Brand Name | Wisdom |
| Target Audience Keyword | dogs |
| Directions | Wisdom Panel 2.0 DNA Test Kit can help you finally find out what breed your dog is, which can be crucial to know when you're making decisions about feeding, training, and care. The results of this testing kit will help you understand your dog's needs and behaviors. The test is convenient and fast. The Wisdom Panel 2.0 DNA Test Kit comes with two swabs, a carton, and a shipping label; all you have to do is collect a sample of your dog's DNA and send it back to the lab for analysis. The analysis will tell you whether you have a purebred, designer, or mixed breed dog; you'll receive a report detailing this information as well as the relevant breed history, behavior, and appearance. Benefits: You can know without a doubt what breed your dog is If your dog is a purebred, you can find out how genetically diverse it is and get a breed certification If your dog is a mixed breed, your report will list the breeds of ancestors three generations back |
| Recycled Content Percentage | 50 |
| Model Name | FBA_Wisdom Panel 2.0 |
| Size | no size |
| Material | man-made-material |
| Age Range Description | All ranges |
| Care Instructions | Oral |
| Number of Items | 1 |
| Manufacturer | Mars Veterinary |
| Included Components | Wisdom Panel 2.0 DNA Test Kit |
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Wow. I am so impressed with this company and their product. I tested 3 dogs. My sister's Pitt Mix, my Husky Mix, and a JRT mix. I was impressed with the results. You don't send in a picture, and it identified dogs that were obviously major contributors to each dogs phenotype (how they look). I have linked 3 pictures of the dogs next to their results. Milly and Dakota's results were right on par. Milly looks like an Am. Staff, but we knew there was something else in the mix. She is very standoffish and doesn't like strangers despite socialization efforts and LOVES to hut anything that moves. Having her be 3/4 Am. Staff and 1/4 Rhodesian Ridgeback makes total sense. We didn't think about it until after the results came back, but whenever Milly gets upset a line of hair on her back from her neck to her tail fluffs up. I don't know if this has anything to do with the "ridge" but you never know! Dakota is obviously a northern breed mix, but we have always been perplexed by her size, she is only 28lbs. We have been asked if she is a mini-Husky (didn't even know that was a thing), but we always answer 'no, just a Husky mix". Now it is easy to tell where her petit size comes from. The cocker and the Keeshund are on the smaller side. Kota was my dog with the most mixed breed ancestry. Her's made for interesting reading! Lizzie is where we hit a little snag. I believe the Russell Terrier/Cocker Spaniel was 100% correct, but she is just not 1/2 Am.Staff as you can clearly see in the picture, she is 19 lbs. I contacted Wisdom about this ans sent them a couple of pictures and they agreed that the results were off. Here is some of what they said: "The cheek swab that you collected was sent to our laboratory in Lincoln, NE where the DNA was extracted from the cheek cells and examined with the 321 markers that are used in the test. The results for these markers are then sent to a computer that evaluates them using an algorithm designed to build all of the pedigree trees that are possible in the last three generations, from a simple pedigree with a single breed (a pure-bred dog) or two breeds at the parental level (a first-generation cross) all the way up to a complex tree with eight great-grandparent breeds coming together. Our computer uses over 200 breeds that we have in our database as well as the three ancestral dog groups to build the family trees. The three ancestral dog groups consist of the ‘European’ group that contains most of the Terriers, Hounds, Retrievers, and herding breeds; the ‘Guard’ group that contains breeds meant to guard us such as the Bulldog, the Boxer, and the Mastiff; and finally the ‘Ancient’ group that contains largely the Asian and Arctic breeds like the Chow Chow, the Chinese Shar-Pei, and the Siberian Husky. For each of the family trees built the computer gives a statistical score representing how well those breeds in those proportions match to the data and the family tree with the best score is the one sent out to you. Based on my review of Lizzie's Wisdom Panel data, I can see that she appears to have a significant amount of European breed ancestry. Her strongest observed chromosomal match was to the "pet style" subtype of American Staffordshire terrier, which shares both Guard dog and European terrier ancestry, and is a very diverse breed. The Russell terrier and Cocker spaniel are both European breed dogs, of the terrier and hunting/gundog families, respectively, and were well supported by the data as grandparents by chromosomal match. there is suggestion that other breeds are present in Lizzie's ancestry; herding breeds were also showing similarity to her signature. When looking at the quality of the swab sample for Lizzie, it does appear that while the sample was good enough to generate a unique DNA signature, the quality is not as high as we generally hope for, matching to only about 81% of the markers tested. This may have impacted the accuracy of her results, given her level of genetic diversity. I feel that a retest is the recommended course of action to attempt to obtain the most information about her breed makeup." Essentially, her sample that I collected wasn't great and of the 321 markers they test on, only 81% were quality enough to be tested. They are sending me a complimentary re-test. I could not be happier with their customer service and test accuracy! (When a proper sample is given!) Strongly recommend! I will be purchasing another for my new JRT mix pup we rescued! THANKS!
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- Reviewed in the United States on July 23, 2012
I know that phenotypes don't always match genotypes. However, I'm still rather skeptical about the results of my dog's test. She is most definitely some sort of hound mix-- she bays and howls like nobody's business, has a hard hound coat, and an intense toy/prey drive. She's exuberantly friendly, incredibly stubborn, and goes deaf when she's on a scent. As a puppy I thought she might be a Beagle cross, but as she grew older Beagle seemed less likely, based on her size (almost forty pounds) and structure (very tall and lean with skinny legs and a narrow face). I waffled a bit over buying a DNA kit because of the poor reviews, but eventually I caved. The whole process was very simple: swabbed her cheeks after isolating her as per previous reviews for several hours with nothing to lick or chew and then sent the samples in. The results arrived rather quickly, just under two weeks after the sample was received.
They indicate she's primarily a mutt, which I expected: only two breeds found in the last three generations. They also say she's 12.5% basset hound, which I definitely can see, in personality if not in stature. However, it's the rest that has me skeptical. The largest breed found in her (25%) is Cocker Spaniel. I just don't really see it in her at all. She doesn't look like a Cocker, and she doesn't act like a Cocker. The rest of the results (the less-than-12.5%) were equally as perplexing: 9% otterhound (one of the rarest breeds in the world!), 8% bullmastiff, and then a variety of wire-haired terriers. All put together, I'm just not sold. Could she be this odd combination of non-hound, very rare breeds? Maybe. But she doesn't look or act like a dog who supposedly only has 12.5% scent-hound in her, excluding otterhound, which again I just don't believe at all given the rarity.
I gave it three stars because it is certainly entertaining and fun, and it's easy to do. Had a good laugh at the results. If you have fifty or sixty dollars to spare, go for it. But go into it knowing the results might be a bit suspect. That said, I may go ahead and buy another test for my other dog, if only to see if his results make more sense, or are equally as unexpected. I tested my 'hound' first because she at least sort of resembles some breeds, while I can't even begin to guess with him, other than some kind of terrier. First I'll have to work myself back up to stomaching another sixty dollars, though.
UPDATE 08/15/12:
I have to reduce this to one star, based solely on my experience when I ultimately did attempt to test my second dog. Note the 'attempt'. Again, I followed all directions. The dog was isolated for several hours with nothing to lick or chew prior to the test. I let the swabs air dry without touching anything before shipping them right off. This time, it took an entire week for the samples to be received at the lab, as opposed to roughly three days for the first test. A little strange, but I shrugged it off.
For two complete weeks, the status checker on the website informed me the sample was being processed. Then this past Monday evening (8/13), it changed from being processed to results pending. Okay. Great! When I next checked it, however, it had reverted back to being processed. What? No word for Wisdom Panel on why, and for two days I waited, thinking it would change back. Nope. Finally, a bit confused, I e-mailed them asking what was going on. Their reply? The DNA sample was insufficient and didn't have enough markers, and if I wanted results, I would have to test again. Given that I followed their directions to a 'tee', could it be perhaps that the week the sample spent in the postal system in the dead heat of summer before they supposedly received it had anything to do with this insufficient DNA? I mean, a week seems like a heckuva long time for first class mail, especially when a sample sent not a month prior was received by them in less than three days! But what most rankled me is the fact that they apparently weren't going to tell me anything about this problem with my sample-- at least, not in a timely manner-- even though it seems quite clear that they knew about it on Monday, at the very least. If I hadn't e-mailed them, I feel like they would have just let me sit around for another two or three weeks despite knowing well and good that they couldn't analyze my sample. Not a good way to treat paying customers. Not to mention, when sending me back their form letter, they didn't even bother to fill-in-the-blanks with my dog's name... the e-mail literally read: "It has been brought to my attention that the sample you submitted for (pet name) was unable to be successfully processed..." Really?
They offered to either send me a new kit-- no offer to expedite or anything like that, so that would mean another month or so of waiting with no guarantee that THIS sample would be sufficient-- or they said I could seek a refund. But because I bought through Amazon, they wouldn't actually give me the refund themselves. Cue a very nice LiveChat with an Amazon rep in which I was told I could not get a refund because I didn't physically have the product to return... well, long story short, I didn't take no for an answer and did end up with my refund. Go Amazon! But the whole experience has left a bitter taste in my mouth and I will definitely NOT be dealing with WisdomPanel again.
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MP 78Reviewed in France on May 6, 2023
Facile à faire et résultats correspondant bien aux origines supposées de mon chien
Nous avons adopté notre petite chienne dans une famille dont la chienne avait eu une portee. Ne souhaitant pas nécessairement un chien pur race, nous avons craqué pour notre petite Polka. Les maîtres nous avaient dit qu'elle était un mélange de Spitz, sharpei, bulldog et pinscher. Mais en grandissante, on trouvait que Polka avait un physique et un tempérament nous faisant penser au Jack Russel. Nous avons donc décidé d'en savoir plus sur ses origines et en recevant les résultats, il s'avère qu'elle n'a pas du tout de Jack Russel dans ses gènes . Elle a bien du bulldog, sharpei, spitz comme nous l'avait indiqué la famille, mais aussi un gros pourcentage de chihuahua !MP 78Facile à faire et résultats correspondant bien aux origines supposées de mon chien
Reviewed in France on May 6, 2023
Faire le prélèvement est très simple, il suffit de frotter les écouvillons dans la joue du chien et de renvoyer le prélèvement dans une enveloppe pre-affranchie. Il faut ensuite s'armer de patience.. nous avons du attendre un peu plus d'un mois pour avoir les résultats. Mais il y a un site facile d'accès qui permet de suivre étape par étape la procédure afin de savoir où en est l'analyse. Les résultats sont ensuite communiqués sous forme de pourcentages avec une description de chaque race.
Je suis donc plus que satisfaite de mon achat, et je conseille vivement Wisdom panel pour l'analyse adn permettant de définir les races d'origine pour les chiens. Nous sommes très contentes de savoir qui est notre petite Polka et nous allons pouvoir aussi mieux comprendre ses réactions et adapter notre éducation.
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